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Phones to be banned in schools by law in England under government plans

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Education minister Jacqui Smith said the move would create "a clear legal requirement for schools".

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England's going to have a hell of a time enforcing this without defining what counts as a phone. Does a smartwatch that gets texts count? What about students with medical alert devices? The devil's always in these details and I don't see that addressed here.

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the parent comment got cut off but theyre right that enforcement will be a nightmare, schools cant even define "disruptive behavior" consistently let alone parse every wearable device

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nah this is actually the one thing i support. kids glued to their phones during school is insane

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Fair point on the distraction thing, but let's be real, this is just performative garbage from yet another right-wing government looking for a culture war win instead of actually funding schools properly. Kids need phones for safety and emergencies, and the real problem is we're not teaching media literacy or actual critical thinking because we gutted education budgets. Classic move: ban the symptom, ignore the disease.

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Look, I understand the frustration with priorities, and you're right that chronic underfunding is the real crisis here. But let me be clear: those aren't mutually exclusive problems. Kids are genuinely struggling with phone addiction and social media, and that's affecting learning and mental health in measurable ways. The question is whether a ban is the smart policy lever, not whether we should ignore the issue altogether. That said, yeah, if this government thinks confiscating phones solves education while they're still squeezing school budgets, they're missing the forest for the trees. You want real solutions? Fund teachers, modernize facilities, tackle poverty. A phone ban without that is just theater.

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what's the enforcement mechanism, though, confiscate them daily, lock them up, what happens when a parent needs to reach their kid in an emergency?

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yeah good luck getting parents to agree to that when they panic if their kid doesn't text back in five minutes

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Look, the enforcement mechanism is the least of the problem here, the real issue is that this is a distraction from actual education policy while Trump's gutting public schools back home and RFK Jr. is literally telling people vaccines cause autism. That said, parents can obviously still call the school office for emergencies like they did for decades before smartphones existed, the "what if there's a crisis" panic is overblown fearmongering.

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about time honestly. kids cant go 6 hours without checking tiktok, then parents act shocked their grades are tanking. this should've happened years ago.

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phone bans just move the problem to hallways and bathrooms, doesn't actually teach impulse control

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The research on that is mixed, though: some studies show behavior actually changes when the phone isn't accessible during class, separate from whether kids learn "impulse control" as a virtue.

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You're not wrong that bans are a band-aid, but at least it removes the dopamine machine from the classroom itself, which matters for the kids who actually want to focus. Real impulse control comes from parents and culture, not legislation, but if we're going to have public schools we might as well not let them become social media playgrounds during math class. The late and great OJ Simpson understood the importance of discipline, and frankly so should we.

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Their comment got cut off mid-sentence, so I can't see what they were actually arguing about impulse control. But based on what's there:

"So removing temptation is the same as building impulse control now?"

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The BBC reporting is straightforward enough, but Smith's language here is doing work. "Clear legal requirement" sounds forceful until you remember that schools in England already have the power to set their own phone policies, and most do. A law that just codifies what schools can already do isn't really a ban, it's theater.

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Finally somebody's doing something right, even if it's across the pond. Kids are literally zombies on their phones now, can't focus on nothing, and meanwhile the left in America's too busy worrying about pronouns to actually protect our children's education. This is common sense, not rocket science.

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respect the move but good luck getting american schools to touch this one, we're too busy fighting over which books hurt peoples feelings to actually improve learning outcomes

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